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serious confusion and guidance needed on pricing calculation
« on: February 17, 2010, 10:31:50 PM »
Hello,

I want to clear this up:

Reseller License Description Life Span List Price
MZ3‐RL Reseller License 12 months 300,00 €

According to that you get the rights to resell magazine and profit on licenses that you bought. Now what is included in those 300? is it just the right to resell megazine?

Or is there licenses included in the deal?

If not would this mean that - you need to buy one of the 3 optional licenses flix - flex etc...
And in that case would i calculate it like this 300 + 5 x 100 (flex license) - 20%


Another question which has nothing to do with reseller is if you buy fix.

It states "Single Title (one Online PLUS one Offline Title)" - what does this actually mean?
Heres an example - i want to publish an online magazine (about, lets say food) - every month - which means that i will end up having 12 magazines total by the end of the year.
Is this allowed? In case - would i need to remove the before issue - before i publish a new one? so i only have one issue online every month? or am i allowed to still have an archive over the last published issues - accessible online to everyone on my site?

Are you allowed to change in sourcecode - or add your own plugins in "fix" ?

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Re: serious confusion and guidance needed on pricing calculation
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2010, 02:25:50 AM »
Let me try in clearing up ;-)

Reseller License
This defines certain additional rights and grants additional discounts. It is not a license to use MegaZine3.
Perhaps it is time to review the wording of the Reseller License and update it. This agreement was not touched for a long time ;-)

Basically this license is of interest in these cases:
  • Someone needs many licenses over  the period of 12 months  (life span of the RL license). Than this license grants a 50% dicount; an top of every volume discount.
    Example: 20 MZ3-Flex + 1 MZ3-RL result in 20*100 Euro * 50% volume discount * 50% RL discount + 300 EUro RL = 800 Euro (instead of 20*100*50%= 1000 Euro). And even if only a single license is purchase later the 50% svaing for the RL license apply.
  • You want to modify the source code AND sell it to your customer. Then you need to have a valid MZ3-RL license in place to do so.
    (Re-)Selling unchanged MZ3 Licenses is possible without a MZ3-RL license
  • You act as a hoster or publisher, making use of the special licenses MZ3-PUBL and MZ3-HOST: In that case you need to be under a valid MZ3-RL license

All "standard" users do not need to care about MZ3-RL licenses...

So yes: to use MegaZine3 commercially you need one of the 3 licenses. Depending on your business case chances are very high that one of those (or in rare occasions a combination) will fulfill your needs.

MZ3-FIX: is intended for the eBook type use. One Title with usually many pages and many copies on media.

MZ3-TIME: for periodical publications like newspapers, newsletters, monthly/weekly magazines, ... Up to 5 parallel Titles with unlimited pages and issues. So even 5 daily newspapers with more than 100 pages each would be covered. For 12 months (Life Span of MZ3-TIME). Once published Titles can stay online forever. No downloads, no offline copies. A pure internet presentation.

MZ3-FLEX: For everything "in between". Limitation is only by the number of pages (500 Online, 50.000 Offline copies on Media).
This allows you to publish newsletters and if you take old ones offline after exceeding the 500 pages you can live forever with just one license.

The goal is to have a fair prive for the value of usage.

In your case: if those monthly newspapers have let's say 50 pages each on average, then with 12 issues you reach 600 pages. What is still lower than the 500 pages plus the 50% tolerance we grant.
If you than take older newspapers offline, you can publish the next without the need of buying another license.
If you want to keep old versions and intend to publish more newspapers or more pages or more often... then a MZ3-TIME could become interesting.

There are situations where either or could be used.
But hopefully you got an understanding of the basic concept...

Regarding source code changes and plugins:
Yes, you can modify the code. And if you use it for your own license, you do not need any other license (like a development or reseller license). ALl covered by your FIX or FLEX or TIME license.
Same is true for plugins, which is the prefered method.
You could sell your plugins without the need of a reseller license.
Or to the extreme: you not even need any license  to create your own plugin and sell it!

Hopefully this clarifies a bit!

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Re: serious confusion and guidance needed on pricing calculation
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2010, 10:53:13 AM »
Ok this did help a bit but still:

MZ3-TIME: for periodical publications like newspapers, newsletters, monthly/weekly magazines, ... Up to 5 parallel Titles with unlimited pages and issues. So even 5 daily newspapers with more than 100 pages each would be covered. For 12 months (Life Span of MZ3-TIME). Once published Titles can stay online forever. No downloads, no offline copies. A pure internet presentation.

What does parallel title mean? does it mean i can only have 5 magasine/newsletters published online - and then have to remove the previous once?

MZ3-FLEX: For everything "in between". Limitation is only by the number of pages (500 Online, 50.000 Offline copies on Media).
This allows you to publish newsletters and if you take old ones offline after exceeding the 500 pages you can live forever with just one license.


How many magasines can i publish per month ? as many as i want - as long as they dont exceed the 500 pages rule alltogther? or is it just one and then remove the old once?

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Re: serious confusion and guidance needed on pricing calculation
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 01:09:12 PM »
OK, let me try to explain/define in more detail:

MZ3-TIME
Title: in case of periodicals this is one periodic title (usually a megazine with a name and an issue number and date)

So 5 different and independent publications are allowed "in parallel". This can be 5 newspapers named e.g. "daily mirror", "gazette A", "news B", "city news C" "actualities D"

If after some time you decide to give up e.g. "actualities D", you could instead publish something else "in parallel to the other 4 papers"

Issue: Thos e are the individual issues of one title; in case of a daily megazine you have one daily "issue"


MZ3-FLEX:
Correct: you can publish as many titles (megazines, newsletter, ... or ".mz3 files") as you like; as long as the total number of pages across
all titles does not exceed 500.

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Re: serious confusion and guidance needed on pricing calculation
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2010, 03:31:28 PM »
Thanks so far very helpful on clearing up the info :)


MZ3-FLEX:
Correct: you can publish as many titles (megazines, newsletter, ... or ".mz3 files") as you like; as long as the total number of pages across
all titles does not exceed 500.

Can i have the old titles published online so its accessible to users?

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Re: serious confusion and guidance needed on pricing calculation
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2010, 04:55:02 PM »
Not sure if I fully understand...
As long as the 500 pages (at the end with just one license you can add the 50% tolerence we grant and with that have a total of up to 750 pages online) are not exceeded, the "age" of the titles does not matter!

You even can keep it forever, since the life span is not limited.
The only limitation is the total number of pages.

If you find out there is one title that consumes most of the pages, then it might be helpful to consider for that title a MZ3-FIX.
Since with that you have no limits in pages but are restricted to one title. But the combination of both increases your flexibility again.
As I said... if needed at a later point in time.

Does this answer your question?
Otherwise please explain again ;-)

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Re: serious confusion and guidance needed on pricing calculation
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 10:29:09 AM »
hm, lets say i have a zine called "fish"

every week i will release a new issue which will have a unique link of fishexample.com/mag1 - fishexample.com/mag2 - fishexample.com/mag3 etc...

Am i allowed to do that or do i have to keep overwriting /mag1 every time i release a new issue?

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Re: serious confusion and guidance needed on pricing calculation
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2010, 02:12:56 AM »
What happens with the old links: do they continue to work, i.e. are the old zines still accessible?

It at the end comes down to "how many pages are accessible online".

You can have up to 500 pages in parallel, so one magazine has 50 pages on average, you could have about 3 months online: 3*4*50= 600 pages

If you want to go ahead publishing new magazines, you either had to take older ones offline or go for a MZ3-TIME.
That license allows you to publish as many issues during the life span of 12 months with as many pages you need.
Your 52 issues are fully covered, even if you have many pages per issue.
And what also is nice: published issues can stay online, even if you do not extend the life span.

Only if you continue to publish magazines you need to be under MZ3-TIME license.
So after a year you need a new one.
Or in other words: 100 Euro / year and you are ll set. Even if you plan to publish more than jsut that one magazine.
Up to 5 different titles with even daily publication are covered by one license.


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Re: serious confusion and guidance needed on pricing calculation
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2010, 02:30:46 PM »

And what also is nice: published issues can stay online, even if you do not extend the life span.

Only if you continue to publish magazines you need to be under MZ3-TIME license.

Whoa... this is totally not clear from the price list. "Lifespan" very much implies that the book will expire.

Knowing this opens up some interesting new options for me... hmmm...
See my megazine at CarpeChaos.com

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Re: serious confusion and guidance needed on pricing calculation
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2010, 03:54:48 PM »
The License overview paper (under downloads at www.vservu.com) explains:

MZ3-TIME
This License type is the best fit for Periodicals. For Online or Offline publishing.
  • Maximum Number of Titles: 5 Up to 5 different, named eJournals, eZines, Newspaper are allowed to be published in parallel.
  • Number of Editions: unlimited, i.e. an unlimited number of megazine.mz3 files can be published of up to 5 titles.
    Usually an edition is identified by it’s number and/or the date of issue.
  • Number of Online pages: unlimited
  • Maximum Number of Offline Pages: 0 Nothing allowed to deliver/publish on media like e.g. DVD, memory stick or for download.
  • Number of Revisions: 0 (not allowed)
  • Archive Time: unlimited Titles published under a valid MZ3-TIME License can stay online, also after the end of the Life Span.
  • Life Span: 12 months. After that time a new license is needed.
  • Update or upgrade costs: free updates and upgrades during Life Span

The Price list says (titled "Conditions Standard Licenses"):
Life Span:12 months. Only for Online use, no copies for Offline use, no downloads.
Unlimited number of pages per month, maximum of 5 different Titles (named Periodicals).
All published Titles can stay Online also after the end of the Life Span.
The license is transferable

I hoped this would be clear enough?!

Where else would you like to see that statement?
I could add a row in the overview table, defining the archive time.
But this would again make the table longer and more complex.
And could also confuse; because FIX and FLEX have unlimited life span, and therefore an archive time does not make sense...

It is not easy to find the best compromise ;-)
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